Protests can be performed in anyway, it is the act to show our dis agrees with the particular matters. But it was a regretful experience as a Christian to watch the remonstration of PASS and NKLF supporters against something in front of the Cathedral Church, Calicut on the Easter morning. The believers of Jesus Christ attended the holy worship in the joy of the victory of our saviour against sin as he rose from the dead on the third day after his crucifixion on Resurrection Sunday, and when they came out of the church, there were some people including some choir members of cathedral, gathered in front of the campus with their mouth covered with black cloth and a person was talking something on a megaphone, though no body was listening to them barking there, they continued this circus for some more time.
We tried our best to hear what they speak but we couldn’t because of their low voice and the cheerful talking and Easter wishes of the cathedral members. All the cathedral members were quite aroused by the act of these crooks and they were just stood helpless by seeing some gundas between them who has already suspended from puthiyara CSI church for annoying a holy worship. They also included Mr. Hunt who filed a case against diocese to freeze the bank accounts and got failed miserably as the court dismissed the case with cost by saying he has no right to question the diocese.
We wonder these guys says they want to save CSI and NKD from the hands of evil but they wont go to church in an Easter day even…!!!! and they call themselves as true Christians…..funny …….!!!! There were no one in that protest who attended church on that day, all of them were Christians, of course Basel mission Christians, except some cathedral choir members who gone directly there to protest after their special number on Easter morning.
We had found a board asking no one except choir members to enter the upstairs where the Pipe organ of Cathedral placed, we doubt it may be for them to plan something in favour of this protest, that is why they blocked the entry of members to that place and some choir members were there in the protest too as we said before.
why should they some to church? these mad dogs should not be allowed to enter the church premises even, they come to church to distribute notice and to attack somebody not to worship the god, as the ayyan said in his easter message we should come out of this notice culture then only we and our churches will develop
ReplyDeleteI wonder why the committee members allow such show to happen in our church, our youth, men's fellowship our committee members all were there but no one took an effort to stop that ugly drama of black mouths....
ReplyDeleteI was present that time.people were listening with big ears.It is the right of a Christian to convey his message through silent protest.I congratulate those youngsters staged this event in a systematic way.Who is responsible for making church members to rush into such style of protest.I know it is bishop.He is playing like a puppet and subverting the democratic rights of people for not convening the council for about one year.So I expect more and more events like this in future.
ReplyDeleteDear old, it is your age says this....we were there at the time of this so called protest and we didn't found anyone listening to it, and if some one had a glance to that side was saying what are these crooks are doing are they want to tarnish the remaining goodwill of NKD and CSI? you call this as silent protest?? this is your protest??? making others laugh on CSI ? and posing for photograph with an ear to ear wide mouth a sif you have done something great!!! shame shame...
ReplyDeleteI think pass members have no idea about why they done this protest....they just published a heading alone in their blog after seeing this post here...no details from their side means what stated here is absolutely true...with out any reason they just stood their with their mouth covered with black cloths may be to show they are the spoke persons of dark and evil.......
ReplyDeleteDear mathew,
ReplyDeleteYou are not knowing the present situation which led all aged people to conduct such a protest.
What goodwill remain now?
The bishop was exposed through out the world because of his activities.
Why he is afraid of election?
Why there are lot of unconstitutional orders?
He has to face the music.It is not a bad way like wearing black clothes and showing protest.It is your ignorance about the democratic ways.
I remember retired achan koodakkal was put a chappel chain by your own people.Was it not a protest.
When something goes wrong somewhere all these protest will come.
Try to learn why this was happened.
stop blaming pass of laity.learn how to watch a post in a blog.
Dear Vincent,
ReplyDeleteif you are not well versed with English please for God's sake don't use it lie this ...use your mother tongue to express your agony........it is not at all understandable what you have mentioned above....
I am an ordinary keralite.My mother tongue is not English.
ReplyDeleteYou can not understand the facts.
so you are making simple excuses.
You can not market your cheap tricks to cathedral members.
every body can understand the message I conveyed in my comment.
Is there any emergency declared in Diocesan churches?
ReplyDeleteI don't understand why some of our members are afraid of protest? Don't you have protest against this autocratic rule?when you are going to conduct the elections?only after the period of bishop?
write your opinion here.
"learn how to watch a post in a blog. " what do you mean by this dear vincent??? I too can not understand what you have tried to express through your comment....please clarify...it is better to type in malayalam if not sure with the english language...important is the message not the language
ReplyDeleteDear sunith peter...
ReplyDeletewho is here afraid of such silly protests of few expelled members of churches??? who has botheration on all these... we have seen how cathedral members reacted to that show on Easter morning....it was like Sooryan udikkumbol pattikal kurakkum..don't worry.. they just not had any attention to that side where all these happened... what do you mean by an autocratic rule or which is an autocratic rule in your opinion... bishop kicked out 5 gundas from church who annoyed a priest between holy worship???? is that or one guy says he is ex military and want to be the treasurer of diocese or else he will file a suit against diocese and create problems....and the most funniest thing is that he is not a CSI member even...and he just removed from the proposed list of admn's sent by moderator is this an autocratic decision in your view?????
Hello friends,
ReplyDeleteWe all need clean, neat, systematic, straight and true worship to our LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Foe this we need clean thoroughly. we should start cleaning from bottom to top. first of all, we have to teach VICARs a lesson. they are the root causes of all troubles. poor churchmen respect them and dance to their music. This we have to realise and act accordingly.
They are nobody and shouldn't have to give much respect to them they are who teaches BIBLE to us and if you look into their life, for them there is no fear of GOD, Love, faithfulness, sincerity etc. they are bundles of anger, untruly, unholy, evil, devilish, jealousy, pride and ignites fight and troubles with members.
Realize it realize it. and act accordingly.
Dear Samuel,
ReplyDeleteif we need a clean and neat church with out any troubles to worship god then it will be needed to kick out you like insane people from church first who does not respect priests or even the bishop and consider church as only a place to distribute cheap notices and show useless protests... but what to do Jesus taught us to betray the sin not the sinner... and when the bishop sent out such people who even tried to disturb a priest during the holy worship, that is a big issue for you people...you have showed your culture by saying not to give respect to priests as they teach only Bible... you may not have respect to your father and mother even that they are just a reason for your creation...nothing great in it... you have seen only priests who are in your company against bishop and other honorable achans you have seen them consuming alcohol with you and roaming in palayam market in search of Ganja....but don't think achans are all like that, they are such downward creatures that is why they are with you like people... there are a number of dedicated holy priests those devoted their whole life for the wellness of CSI and Christianity you are taking example of this new generation priests and their activities and trying to weigh others with the same balance....that is not right....
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteI respect my father and mother because i am sure they are my parents. those who know parents will respect them. i am not telling you don't know your parents. don't be upset. Like you people are shot dead first in order to clean the church. Who are priests?? they are doing a job for their salary. we need BIBLE only and we can read it clearly to understand our JESUS CHRIST. Please talk sensibly and to the point.
What is happening here? You are trying to justify the unconstitutional activities of the bishop?
ReplyDeleteThere are lot of mistakes at bishop's part.He is running away from the problems created by vicars in respective churches.
One case is registered in the calicut munsif court by seven senior memebers from st.Mary's church,calicut.They demand court to take required steps to conduct 'church assembly'.They prayed the bishop and moderator to instruct the vicar to call for the assembly.But they did not respond.so these seven senior members approached the court for justice.
When natural process and justice are not taking place,people will come forward and demonstrate different types of protest.It is natural.
I love the people who performed protest on easter day.
Really they love their parents and church.
here in CSI Churches vicars act like supreme authority and they think all the people are fools. They are nobody. it is good if they know they are respected only because of BIBLE. and what they teach us?? to fight, to be stubborn like a mule? they are DIVIDING and RULE us.
ReplyDeletewe should be aware of it. they are not anointed by JESUS CHRIST. they are done so by human bishop. there is no holiness among them.
that's it..dear samuel..so you know to respect them who needs it ....but you are not ready to respect priests and bishop because you don't like that white color of cassock..isn't it? that is because there is sin inside you that is why you feel defeated to white cassock....try to change ...as soon as possible
ReplyDeleteI was told by one lady member of our church about this blog.What is your aim behind this? Are they priests really doing this?
ReplyDeleteError is human but forgiveness is divine.Why all these confusions and problems in churches? Why our chairman is not ready for a church meeting?All churchmen know that absolutely there were no problems in our church ever since it was situated.But now we hate the vicar and bishop.I am asking you why there are no end for our problems?
I can support the members stood in front of cathedral church with black masks to protest against the bishop.
You have not written any suggestions rather than blaming your own brothers as goondas.
I suspect that the Bishop and you do not want peace in our churches.
Dear sam, you said it true ....some one do not want peace in our churches...but that is not bishop and priests but some laymen....
ReplyDeletewhat else should i call them other than gundas who disturbed priests between worship even and call them over phone and abuse with bad words...will they call their father by that words they used towards a priest???
why do you hate your vicar bishop now? for taking away the picture from the altar????
not only you there are few members there to support these gundas that is the reason for this no ending for our church problems...
Loving Friend,
ReplyDeleteI don't know why you are appearing as an 'Anonie friend'.Anyway I am not bothered about it.
Are you afraid of few goondas? What is our church and its mission.I am very sorry to know from your words that few gundas are creating confusions in my church.It is not correct.The seven senior citizens who filed case are not connected with any outside people.You are making simple excuses.In all your comments you are blaming our own people but not touching the importance of the issues.
I have doubts about your anonymous status.Sorry friend.
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteI am not a saint. I have all sins inside me and I do not cover it with WHITE Cassock. that dress is not a holy one. these stupids are making it holy dress. hmm Hope you stupid will not say all arabs are HOLY and priests in christian church.
LEARN YOU FOOL ABOUT CASSOCK.
Etymologically, a cassock is probably a cloak worn by a Cossack; the two words appear to be ultimately identical. Cassock, which originally meant simply ‘cloak’ or ‘long coat’ (its current application to clergymen’s tunics arose in the 17th century), comes via French casaque from Italian casacca. It has been conjectured that this was a descendant of Turkish quzzāk ‘nomad’ (a derivative of the verb qaz ‘wander’), which also, via Russian kozak, gave English Cossack (16th c.). However, another theory is that cassock comes ultimately from Persian kazhāghand ‘padded jacket’, a compound formed from kazh ‘raw silk’ and āghand ‘stuffed’.
THERE IS NOTHING HOLY IN CASSOCK. ITS JUST A DRESS TO DISTINGUISH A BIBLE PREACHER FROM LAITY.
Anonymous is sick - DELUSION. He is living in a world of ILLUSION.
ReplyDeleteDear samuel,
ReplyDeleteIt is an unproductive exercise teaching these friends.They were cheating the non syrian church members.I have noted specifically that number of church members like you had put comments here.But they were not in a position to answer properly but blamed the individuals.Mr.James Hunt was baptized and confirmed in my church only.He is remitting his church subscription in st.Marys csi church,madras.But these friends propagated that he is not a csi member.Will the moderator of synod dare enough to announce that he is not a member? Bishop is afraid of him.I could not understand why the synod has removed Mr.James and the other two IAS officers from the administrative committee.So top to bottom is corrupted and this show has become a melodrama.
When you go into the depth of issues you can understand that this church is controlled by outside forces.
A mafia always act as anonymous.Remember.
Dear Sam,
ReplyDeleteIf we go through this CSI, we will be wondered as it is a registered "COMPANY" under the name CSI TRUST ASSOCIATION. we fools believe it is a religious institution. 99.9% of vicars knows this and that is why they do make us play mouse and cat game.
St. Mary's vicar is trying to SELL the age old picture in that church. hope he must have seen the pictures inside Westminster Abbey, London. to the St. Mary's church calicut vicar, the
Archbishop of Canterbury is a fool to hang pictures inside a church.
What to say!!! Mary's church vicarinte puram Adichu polikanam.
Who are you Mr.Samuel.I am very happy to find a person with little knowledge about the church.Church needs persons like you.We are deprived of our rights.Previously they were attacking only the poor Basel Mission churches.Now fighting with anglican congregations.I request persons like to give leadership to laity unions so that the poor members of the churches will learn so many things which they do not know.
ReplyDeleteThere you are Mr. or Ms. Anonymous.
ReplyDeleteyou are searching people with little knowledge. and you never want people with good and thorough knowledge.
Talk sensible Mr/Ms. Anonymous. Jesus Christ never formed any church or any religion. He is Universal savior and one and only son of GOD. Alpha and Omega.
and we are taught only the letters of apostals which is written to churches/gatherings in the context of that period, set-asiding Jesus Christ and his teachings.
Sir,I never meant that you are having little knowledge.What you said here is correct.I can appear here as anonymous only.I am afraid of the net work of the Bishop and his people.I am not an influential person like Mr.jeevanathan john or Thomas John Achan.They have connections in all political parties and police department.I am an ordinary Syrian Christian go to English church on every Sundays.Visit to this blog was just accidental.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteI have no knowledge. what i said it there are people with thorough knowledge and our diocese does not want them.
why you worry about Bishop or anyone?? You fear of GOD only. if GOD is with you, you shouldn't have to worry of anyone.
Study BIBLE carefully and pray to Jesus Christ. No church or denomination or knowing Bishop or vicars or going Church regularly on Sundays or doing things to church will help you to be in heaven with Jesus Christ. (Please excuse me if you ever hurt of my reply.)
You are such a nice person. we live once only in this earth and be bold enough to stand for the right and do not fear of anyone except our Lord Jesus Christ. Be wise enough to distinguish good and bad.
Dear samuel, i doubt where you are a christian??? you dont know the difference between an arab and a holy priest... what has your parents taught you in the child hood..does they had the habit of attending the holy worship???? who are you from where are you coming...
ReplyDeleteAnonymous,
ReplyDeleteFirst you reveal yourself and ask others who are you.
Read what I had written carefully and comment. Don't let people know that you are a FOOL.
What is holiness?? just explain it to me. any person believes in Jesus Christ is promised the privilege of ROYAL PRIESTHOOD. Do you know it?? and does we required any priests whom it is a JOB pretending teaching Jesus Christ??
Priesthood is just a job??? that shows your standard dear samuel......in this stands how can I teach you what is holiness??? its just a matter which you cant even think of it.......
ReplyDeleteDear anonymous friend,
ReplyDeleteYou took three days to reply.It is better to you to teach your conscious how to live in this beautiful world without cheating church members by making with Anonymous face and fraud website.
The case filed by Mr.Hunt is not dismissed but postponed,this is for your information.
It is seen that you are escaping always from comments finally by blaming the standard of people.What is your motive?Money or power or some other matter?
Dear anonymous friend,
ReplyDeleteI do not see much standards in your comments and language. it is below standards. but it is good you think that you have much standards. I agree that have not much standard.
I never knew that much before the Basel missionaries come here, your ancestors were in high standards and your ancestors taught the Basel Missionaries about the Bible. Sorry.
Congratulations Bishop Thirumeni!!!
ReplyDeleteYou have done it.
Dear Friends,
ReplyDeleteI hope all of you have now convinced that this particular blog is a creature of bishop kuruvilla to confuse the believers and also to escape from the true informations and allegations published in other websites run by real believers of the church.Initially I was against 'savecsi' website.
You have not answered any of the queries raised by church members about the corruptions and out of the way administration of the diocese.
I am also very sorry.
Dear samuel..now it is clear to all who is trying to confuse the believers....you have said that "the case filed by Mr.Hunt is not dismissed but postponed" but dear for you r information we have our treasurer in diocese now who has appointed by synod, your hunt story is over..it is true that you peoples have created some troubles in diocese with the account freeze but thirumeni has managed all mishaps very well and synod appointed officers are working in diocesan office now...so no hunt and no account freeze all are over.......you can translate it in to your standard language and publish if you are genuine person who want the good
ReplyDeleteYou are still living with illusions.You have not answered any of our questions but praising bishop.Do you think everything is in favor of bishop.you are in the fools paradise.
ReplyDeletewhat is question that deserves an answer dear? not me you peoples are living in illusions...we will praise bishop..he has done all good things here, and you know what is the prime action from his side...that is the dismissal of 5 gundas from puthiyara church...those men who even tried to sell the cemetery and speaking gospel now... we are with bishop only because of that action..
ReplyDeleteFive gundas were dismissed? I never knew this!!Let me see the dismissal order.I was not educated enough to see that there is a provision in church law book to dismiss the church members without conducting enquiry.
ReplyDeleteBut upto last december the church committee collected membership.I think the dismissal order was issued on first january 2011.You have to publish the order and handover to media people.Let the world know how a bishop can dismiss a baptized member without conducting enquiry.It is a great thing for the whole communities.Bishop kuruvilla deserves an award for that.You should publish it in facebook also.
go and ask for the order to that group of mad dogs only who are creating all these problems in our diocese saying they are dismissed from church....and church tax was not collected from them by collecting from their door step....if you want to get buried in cemetery you have to pay or else don't pay who has asked you to pay...
ReplyDeleteI was thinking they committed some mistakes and I voted against them in the last election.Now I realize that they are the real people.One moopen selected for the last pastorate committee election was given no notice to attend the committee meetings till today.What is this?
ReplyDeleteI asked Mr.stanley moopen and he has no voice.
One raju moopen and two others resigned due to corruption and they did not get reply from bishop and cynod.so they resigned.
One more thing I heard that one witness suggested by treverachan in a criminal case is not alive.fraud name.
I never expected this.you are also not giving answers.All your activities are fraud.anonymous friend,csipassrealface.Do you know where is puthiyara.
When I asked some information about you with csipass activists they were laughing and told me to meet one unniyettan and earnest.What can I do?
Who are you actually?some ghost?
why you are coming like anonymous friend?
I simply asked.Please don't call me also gunda.
Ghost is the thing which will frighten their opposite through their presence... in that case when you like vampires are frightened because of our presence we are ghosts for you ..... that depends on your class to call us by any name...
ReplyDeletewhen some one throws stones to home and abuse a priest by calling over phone and even disturbs a priest from holy worship..what should we call them??? a saint or holy piece of heaven??? they are gundas...always showing gundaism...
during the time of Indian freedom fight if you enquired about Gandhi to a British soldier he wold definitely be laughed there is no wonder and this is like that only you went and asked about us to PASS...
Dear Joy.....the method of war is depends on who is there in opposite.... and when you peoples tried to abuse and spread bad words about our diocese worldwide we have given you back the same piece of bread... and if it bitter you...just sit back and think...its the time for that......
My dear friend,
ReplyDeleteI am very very sorry.By mistake I wrote comments.You are not at all in a position to answer the questions asked by innocent people.Your job is abusing others,blaming others.
No idea about the church and the feelings of its people.When somebody ask something you are replying the other way.
I am very sorry.You are not real persons.all are gundas in your views.
My dear.........
ReplyDeleteif you are looking for an answer of your choice , its better to ask it in your home only..!!! if you asked it to public, they will give answer according to their vision, that you like people may feel as insult or abusing that s purely your problem. your idea about church and priests that everyone knows in calicut now...better not to speak about....
Yes,it is better not to talk.Once you told that Mr.James Hont is not our church member.Now I heard that you have put a red carpet to him and selected him to commonwealth agitation committee along with ten other church members.
ReplyDeleteHow the common church members believe your words.
I am not a party to any church politics.Now I understood that you are playing with our church members.Better not to talk with you.
You may write 'who told you to talk'.That is it.
Dear Joy....in which world are you living??? what do you mean by commonwealth agitation committee??? is that a church organized movement????or by diocese???? then what is his involvement sounds here??? red carpet....who has called him to that meeting...he wants to sit in all that chair he sees...not me but you like idiots (sorry there is no other words to call you) are playing with poor church members...
ReplyDeleteHow dare you use the symbol of the Basler mission?
ReplyDeleteREPLY.
BASLER MISSION,
Missionsstrasse,Basel.
Dear anonymous....don't be so panic....it is what we have used as a profile picture of our blog is not your "BASLER MISSION" logo it is our Basel Mission's logo....both will look similar but the users should know the difference....before jumping in to conclusions and posting comment here unnecessarily you should have checked your logo thoroughly....your logo is a white B M letters in a brown background but our's is black letters in white background...both will look similar only to fools..hope you understand...
ReplyDeletevery very bad comment.Basler Mission is Basel Mission.If you do not know the German Language Please stop your stupidity.
ReplyDeletewe don't know German and we are not a Germans.... The logo which we use is of Basel missions and the logos of India Basel mission and that of German Basler mission are different..that is what we want to express here......
ReplyDeleteDear realface,
ReplyDeleteNow your realface is exposed.You are a total duplicate by all means.
Your bishop also a duplicate.Your rival team found the records and published that bishop is a defaulter.How you will defend?
ReplyDeleteFinally the sathaan is dead.The real face of the fraud csi members is dead.Thank GOD.
ReplyDeleteDont even think of tha dear samu....ninte puka kanathe we will not die......... it was only a cease fire at the time of elections by a common understanding between our team mates....as all are busy with elections........so its all over lets fight again.......
ReplyDelete