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12/02/2010

The Issue In the English Church

Christianity has many denominations  that we only has created through all these years of development, according to our belief and family orientation we have been following one or another division. Certain churches will have certain particularities according to their belief also, Roman catholic churches are known for its architectural beauty, the synagogues are a part of our history same like protestant churches especially CSI churches are also the ancient ones and treated as a study material about the evolution of Christianity in Kerala. Every division of the Christianity believes in the 10 commandments which the almighty  has given to us through the prophet Moses at the Seenai, 
We the protestant Christians approach to the  commandments very  seriously, The fact that God the Father would manifest these 10 specific commandments on a tablet of stone tells us how serious He is about these specific commandments! 
The 10 commandments are explained in the Exodus 20:1-17. The second commandment out of these has some relation with the present issue happened in the English church recently... 
 You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.  This is the second commandment and through this the almighty instruct his  followers not to make any image or likeness of anything that is in heaven water or in the land, and not to bow or worship those , of what ever it may be...!!! 
Here the issue is about  an ancient portrait of  Mary, mother of the Jesus... It is a fact that this particular portrait was kept in the holy altar of the English church for more than 145 years, but it is another fact that we protestant Christians does not accept Mary as a mediator in our prayers as some other denominations do... we respect her as the mother of our Lord, but do not remember her as a mediator between us and the almighty. So what is the point in keeping her portrait in the holy alter....? where we will not keep that of our lord Jesus even... altar in the protestant church always keep a Cross only, to remember that Jesus Christ had given his life over this to save us from the sin...!!! and in that place we had a portrait all these years and if some one initiated to regularize it now means we should appreciate it and also be ashamed that we couldn't think about it yet. 
We have already mentioned in an earlier  post that "Christianity has always faced a lot of struggle to advance to this stage.... to day also we are facing such issues that we faced all these years, 
but the real problem we are facing now a days is not the threat from out side it is right from our side, from our own church people."  it is once again clarified by this issue. there are believers in this church to approach the district collector to keep that portrait again in the church altar..!!! what should we call them...??? it is a fact that the same portrait was there in the altar for a long time but that is not the reason for not to regularize it now, mistakes, whether it has done by an individual or it just happened because of lack of proper knowledge,should be corrected time to time. If it is a place for our worship then it should be according to our belief also...

45 comments:

  1. what you told is correct.we are facing problems from inside.Exactly it is from edapally and bishop.The classical example is this blog.no address.no authentic approach.people know the real fact.yours is a the play of nanarathu branthan.you will be awarded by chappel garland.What you do when rony and bishop go to jail.This is the real thing going to happen in the coming days.

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  2. Dear anonymous,
    u had criticized us for not revealing our identity and u have commented here as anonymous... quite funny... the wise men in calicut already knows who we are some idiots like u doesn't... one can see dreams.. but this is old malarpodikkarante swopnam.....if bishop is ur problem then u start ur own CSI and Basel mission and be the bishop there why wasting ur valuable time here ??? and about authentic approach that u will come to know in recent times ...very well.....

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  3. some old monks are there in our community who does not want to change according to the present, karnnon aduppil aanel avarum aduppil thanne.... and some creatures are there like pass who wants to make every single communication gap in csi in to a big issue

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  4. KALLA KADHAYUNDAKKI AALE PURATHAKKI MEMBERSHIP VANGUNNA AGHILA LOKA VIDDITHAM KATTUNNA KARYAM CHERUTHANO.
    KALLA VOTERMARE UNDAKKI PUTHIYARAYIL JAYICHITTIPPO ENTHAYI.SECRETARY YUM TREASURERUM RAAJI VECHILLE.KARANAM AZHIMATHI.
    SARPAM POLULLA RECORDS PURATHU VARUNNUNDU.APPOZHUM THANGAL EZHUTHANAM 'SINGLE COMMUNICATION GAP',OLD MONKS ENNOKKE.

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  5. mone monutty........
    athanallo ippolahe prasnam .......... neeyokke thozhuthil kettoya pattiye ppole pavam sabhakkare kurachu pedippikkukayalle and calling urself as puthiyara dogs..........

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  7. MONUTTY standing for LAWSJanuary 7, 2011 at 3:04 AM

    eppozhathe prasnam ningalarum viyarthu pariharikkan sramikanda.athinivide sarkar sambhalam vangunna judgimarum,state and central udyogastharum undu.
    Pambara vidditharangal cheythu kootty sabhaye nattilage nattichittu eppol kidannu mongiyittu enthu kaaryam.
    KAANAN POGUNNA POORAM KANDU THANNE ARINJOLU.

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  8. pinnenthina monuutty chumma standing for law...... avide enthe sarkar sambalam vangunna aarum ille???

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  9. NINGALUM BISHOPUM KANNADACHAAL NINGALKKU MAATRAME ERUTTU ANUBHAVAPEDU.. MUZHU LOKHATHINUM ERUTT UNDAVILLA.

    ENNE THALLENDA AMMAVA NJAN NANNAVILLA ENNALLE NIGALKKU PARAYANULLATHU. BUT NOT IN THE ACCOUNT OF POOR CSI PEOPLE.

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  10. ya ya ningal kanadachalum ningalku mathre iruttu ullooo..... not for others.......... just remember that....

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  11. who is closing the eyes?
    People of the christian communities in kerala are going to know who is going 'THOONGICHAVAL AND JUST REMEMBER THAT' latest by 24 rth of jan 2011.
    LET US WAIT AND CELEBRATE THE DECLINE OF KERALA CHURCH HITLER POOR KURUVILA AND HIS GEEBALSES LIKE EDAPALLY AND UNNI MESTHIRI.
    ATHUVARE ONNU KSHAMIKKU SODARA.
    ALL OF US WILL BE IN CALICUT ONLY.
    LONG LIVE THE TRUTH AND THE FIGHT OF CSI PEOPLE AGAINST THE CRIMINALS. NAMASKARAM UNDU.

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  12. mone .... monutty...
    when we came to calicut ur parent's parents would not have started thinking about them.....so just imagine where u are and what u r in calicut...... nee kandittulla calicut alla mone...verem undu..... nirbhandamanel kanikkam.......pakshe pinne parathi parayaruthu...

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  13. YOUR foolishness deserve no reply.
    TherE are some people in kuthiravattom mental hospital.
    They too can not tolerate your gimmics.
    GATHIGEDU OF CALICUT CSI MEMBERS.

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  14. sathyamayittum... ninne okke sahikkunna gathikedu.....

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  15. GETHIGEDU ELLAVARKKUM ORU POLE ALLE.CHURCHES COMPLETE RESTLESS AAYI,SCHOOLS KULAM THONDY,PROPERTIES NATTUKAR KONDU POYI,COLLEGE NAARI.
    For the first time in the history administrators vannu.
    ethra gathigedugal varuthivechittu prasangikunno.
    If you do not have money to buy poison ask willy thantha.he will arrange it for you.he is the only person killed our holy office at shornur.

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  16. sarikkum ellavarkum gathikedu thanne ninneyokke kondu, oru palli onnu renovate cheythappo padam vachilla ennu... youth election nadatham ennu vachappo avante okke aalakare kootde vote cheyyikanam ennu, ennittu enthayi pavangalku malsarathinu polum pokan pattiyilla..... itrem gathikedithiyathu poranju angu chennai vare poyi modaratorku kothiyum nunayum vachu karyangal valachodichu ippo administrator mar... ini kali kanam.... ini bishop officinte padi keriyal naduvinu chavittu kittum ex militariya be carefull... ninakkonnum poison vendi varilla nattukaru thanne sariyakki tharum... wait until that..

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  17. SAJANTE COMMENT THANGALKKU MATHRAM BHADHAGAM.

    PATTALA BHARANATHE MAKKAL ARIYAN POGUNNE OLLU.

    ELLAM ENTE ATHIGARAM,ELLAM ENTE ADHIGARAM ENNU BISHOPINE KONDU ENIYUM PARAYIPPIKKU.

    APPOL KAANAM REAL MILITARY RULE.

    ........NU ADHIGARI PANI KITTIYA KALI KALICHAPPAM PATTALATHE ORKANAMAYIRUNNU.

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  18. mone vadi vettan poyittalle ulloo..... adi varumbo kanam.... ippo admn varumbo aara purathakunne.... athu thanne utharam alle....??

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  19. purathakkugayalla.
    naanam kettu purathu povalanu.
    ethu pole naanam ketta bishopine ethu vare logam kandittilla.

    thante rajabhakthi apaaram.

    ORIGINAL ADIMA. are you fro bihar or orissa where slavery system still exist.

    jeevikkan vere enthokke paniyundu.
    naari edapallye thangi thangi thanum nariyille.

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  20. aaru purathakki aare purathakki...??? purathakkiya thu kure CSI kku thanne nanakkedu varuthiya 5 ennethine alle???? athuk chavitti purathakiyathalle ennittu karanju pizhinju vannirunnallo... njangale thirichedukoo ennu.. apology ezhuthan paranjappo pattilla karan ezhuthum vayanayum onnum ariyillalo....

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  21. ethu guliga kazhikkathathinte kuzhappam thanne

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  22. kando munparichayam ullavarku pettennu manasilavum..... manjappithakkaran kanunnathellam manja thanne monu......

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  23. Suspension order kaiyyil kittumbam bishopinte kannu manjalikkum.

    koode ella chaathanmarudeyum kannum iruttagum

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  24. swopnam aanu mone verum smopnam..... chumma vala vala ennu paranjittu karyamilla..... enthokke aayirunnu... january 25.... military IAS.... boots.... ini pujtiya swopnam.... suspension.... oohhh kanam

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  25. enne secretary aakkiyal maathrame youthil pravarthikku enne paranja aalukale onnum ippol kaanunnillallo.. chuluvil election nadathi veendum secretary aakaam enna mohavumayi kure pillerem kootti vannittenthayi mone? ini athe ninte kyyil kittiyalum oru azhimathiyum nadathan sammathikkukela. chettan bavayum aniyan bavayum kude kure kaashe waste aakkiyille? athra mathi ketto..

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  26. ithe oru vakpayatte alla. nammude sabhayile yuvajanangalkke kalamelayil pankedukkan pattathakkiyathine than utharavadiyane. avare kristhuvingalekke nayikkunnathinu pakaram, thettaya mathrekayane than kanichu kodukkunnathe.

    Oru naal, than ithinokke samadhanam parayendi varum; sabhayile yuvajanangalodum, pinne daivathodum. athe ortholu. sajan pulle thinnukayum illa, vishappullavare thinnan sammathikkukayum illa.

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  27. athe athe ini azhimathi muzhuvan ara mooppan kanicholum, ippo thanne karol padiya 1 lakh kananilla, entho kasera vangi enno, thara nannakki enno okke parayunnu... appo ivan secretary aayalo... palli thanne nannakkum... chumma mundum baniyanum uduthu palli adichu variyal onnum nadakkilla mone ... cathedral karkku pande vivaram ullatha... youthinu prathyekichum...

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  28. kasera vangi, thara nannakki; ithokke paranju kelkkunnalle ullu. enthe poyi anweshikkanje? palli nannakkukayalle vendathe. atho ee 'ara mooppan' thante kallatharathine kootte nilkkano? cathedral karkke vivaram ullathu knonda thanne okke mooppan sthanathu ninne paranje vittathe. palli adichu varan ulla bhagyam onnum thanikke paranjittilla. sabhajanangalude adiyum, prakkum vangana thante okke yogam. "sajan pulle thinnukayum illa, vishappullavare thinnan sammathikkukayum illa" Nannayikkude? :-)

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  29. athe.... palli nannakkanam youth hallum nannakanam.. kserayum vanganam..... athinu swontha ishtathinu chilavakan veetile kasu kondu varanam.... pavam youth kare rathri konde karol padicha kasu alla eduthu kalikkendathu.... azhimathi kanikkanulla visappu mone ippole nallathalla.......nannayikkode iniyum samayamundu...

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  30. Sajan, ee paranja paavam youth karude aavashya prakaramane ee paranja karyangal ellam cheythathe. aarum ottaykke theerumanichathalla. pinne karolinu poya 'ee paavam youth' karude koottathil, sajanum koottukarum undayirunnillallo. enthe vannilla?

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  31. BRother (Binal Emmanuel Robert Sathyadasan)January 28, 2011 at 10:14 AM

    Sajan, Daivam thangale anugrahikkatte. ithe ente last comment aane. enikke ente yeshuvinu vendi pravarthikkanam. sabhayile yuvajanangale yeshuvingalekke nayikkanam. tharkkikkano vachakamadichu jayikkano njan illa. Daivam enikke tharunna oru chance um njan kalayilla. ningalkke ishtamullathu pole ennodu cheythu kollu. God Bless You.. God Bless and protect our Diocese.

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  32. Dear Brother, youth may or may not have many ideas and wishes, this is not the right way to execute all these, as far as our concern. youth is not an independent organization, that is associated with church only, then how can you alone decide and do such things in church premises which attracts a lot of financial expenditure. who has given you such permission, if you are spending your own money in church also you have to get a permission from committee and chairman, isn't it? if the cathedral chairman has done like this with out presenting this in committee will you people accept this??? ask yourself, if you want to lead the youth to Jesus, be polite yourself and let others feel that you are doing that...

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  33. ENTHINA FRAUD BLOGGERE YOUTHILE USIRAN KUTTIGALUDE ADUTHU NINNU CHUNDANGA KODUTHU VAZHUTHINANGA VAANGUNNATHU.

    CHUNAYUNDENGIL STAY ORDERINTE COPY PUBLISH CHEYYU.
    ENNITTU KIDANNU CHILAKKU

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  34. kuttikalude usirine patti mele paranjitundallo, kuttikalu thanne 1 lakh rupees kamathi....... pinne chettanmarude karyam parayano??? ellavanum koodi church kulamakkum...

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  35. Chetan abelinte kaiyil kaiyaamam veezhumbol thangalkku manassilagum.He misguided the poor MP of calicut like anything.He thought he is fool enough to mislead the member of parliament from calicut. ask him yaar

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  36. For everyone who comments here....
    Don't make it as a platform to abuse or character assassin anybody to take your personnel vengeance. That you are being done with PASS blog and it is a place for only that.... this is not the place...
    Everyone in cathedral knows what is happening there...
    what has happened in youth election??
    why the youth can not attend the KALAMELA,
    and what has happened to the meeting????

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  37. APPO KOLLEDAVIDE KONDU ALLE.
    we were not mentioning the name of subhash abel who is a tool of edapally and unni just because he is well qualified person from basel mission community and having little bit literal talents,came up from own hard work.We are sure that he can be corrected.He is a teacher.for getting that job what kind of atrocities he did in cathedral.How many criminal cases are there in his name for the last five years.Do not try to open our mouth.
    Let him live peacefully forgetting all the coolie work done for bishop.
    He is a person whos name is not there in the family records.not a csi member.but became pastorate committee member and youth secretary. WE HAVE A FULL 'FURNISHED' FILE ABOUT HIS ACTIVITIES.
    Tell him to marry and and settle,coming up in literature,as a good teacher.Now this moment when we act accordingly,he will face the music.but we wont do it because of his talents.
    we are not here to attack people with talets and leadership capacity.But do something against us as per the tune of edapally,the same fate of kuruvilla and edapally will happen to him.He can not cheat the MP or DCC president always.There are AICC members in the leadership of laity fellowship.so correct himself and be a good teacher.Basel Mission needs people with talents.but not routed for evil activities.
    you can very well abuse others!!!naa
    What type of human beings you are.
    WHERE IS THE COPY OF THE STAY BAI

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  38. WE WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE The Realface Of CSI PASS HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMENTS BEING DISPLAYED HERE, IF SOME ONE PURPOSEFULLY ATTACKING ANYONE WE ARE NOT AT ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.

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  39. Ayyo jacobe, chumma budhimuttanda, njangalude secretary ye ningal thiruthi budhimuttanda, athu nallathinalla, ellarkum ariyam ningal aara entha ennokke, pinne kalyanavum settlementum okke avaru noki kollum mon poyi swontha veettukarude kalyanam nadathu...

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  40. WHAT RESPONSIBILITY YOU HAVE FOOLS?
    HOW DARE YOU USE THE NAME OF A REGISTERED ORGANIZATION LIKE CSIPASS UNDER INDIAN SOCIETIES ACT?
    YOU HAVE NO IDENTITY AND EVEN YOUR E-MAIL IS FAKE.
    YOU THOGHT THAT A FOOL BISHOP AND FOOL EDAPALLY WILL SAVE YOU.
    WHEN WE CAN DO A LOT OF THINGS AGAINST THE BISHOP IN THE COURT OF LAW AND DEPARTMENTS WE KNOW HOW TO HANDLE PEOPLE WITHOUT BACKBONE AND PLAYING BEHIND THE SCREEN WITH A FAKE PROFILE IN FACEBOOK AND FAKE BLOG.
    DO YOU THINK WHATEVER WE MENTIONED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES OF 'IT' IN OUR EARLIER COMMENTS ARE SIMPLY SAID.
    WHATEVER WE TOLD ABOUT SUBHASH ABEL IS CORRECT.BUT JUST LEAVE HIM.WE ARE KEEPING FULL FLEDGED FILES ABOUT ALL CRIMINALS.SOME RECORDS GONE TO CORRECT PLACES.SEE NOW BISHOP IS IN TROUBLE.EDAPALLY WAS IN TROUBLE,GOT SUSPENSION DIRECTLY FROM GOVT.
    WE HAVE NO HESITATION AT ALL TO EXPOSE CRIMINALS AT ALL.ASK BISHOP,EDAPALLY AND KILLER PAUL DAVID.
    MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
    IF SUBHASH ABEL HAS ANY COMPLAINT,LET HIM APPROACH THE CYBER POLICE AS WE DID.

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  41. Our responsibility is to save our churches from evil forces like PASS and laitty,
    how dare u to use the name of CSI and NK diocese with ur fraud and cheap organizations???? and u r questioning us??? what is ur identity here??? just a name.... that anyone can type....
    and it is fact that u are a single person typing comments in multiple name.....
    do u think we are fools????
    we have clear tracking system for our blog to know from when and where these comments coming.....
    tracking the IP is so simple for an software engineer dear......
    we play according to ground only....
    now u are behind subhash??? he is a real guy with backbone and he knows ur cheap game.... that is why u want to butter him now? isn't it???
    don't worry he wont forget the past so soon like that......

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  42. innale cathedral committee kanakku chodichappo avan karanju kanikkunnu, kure avalumaru avane thangan vannekkunnu....mariyadakku 1 lakh rupees kanakku kanichitttu ini pallil keriyal mathi...... illel kammiti poyittu mananchira bhagathu varan pattukela....

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  43. Thangal swantham swabhavam vilichu parayunnu.
    csipass um laity fellowship um aan kuttigalanennu eppol thelingille.
    AVAR PARAYUNNATHU CHEYTHU KANIKKUNNU.
    NINGAL VAL VALA ENNU KARAYUNNU.
    YOU PUBLISH FROM WHICH COMPUTER COMMENTS ARE COMING BY TRACKING THE HELP OF YOUR EXPERTS.
    VERUTHE CHELACHITTU CSI YE ABAMANIKENDA.
    ULUPPUNDENGIL CHEYTHU KANIKKU.
    KANATTE EDAPALLIYUDE CHUNA.

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  44. hallow,subhash has backbone!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ethra thallu cathedral compoundil ninnu thanne kitti?????

    avanu thanne ariyilla.

    shantham.paaavam

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  45. athe pass um laitty um kanichu kanichu pavam achanmarudeyum teachermarudeyum kanji kudi muttichillle....... aan kuttikal thanne do....sarikkum... aa fenninte salary engilum ningal kodukkane.... aa visidha vastram ittittu naritharam kanichille ninakkokke vendi.......

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