The Issue In the English Church

Christianity has many denominations  that we only has created through all these years of development, according to our belief and family orientation we have been following one or another division. Certain churches will have certain particularities according to their belief also, Roman catholic churches are known for its architectural beauty, the synagogues are a part of our history same like protestant churches especially CSI churches are also the ancient ones and treated as a study material about the evolution of Christianity in Kerala. Every division of the Christianity believes in the 10 commandments which the almighty  has given to us through the prophet Moses at the Seenai, 

We the protestant Christians approach to the  commandments very  seriously, The fact that God the Father would manifest these 10 specific commandments on a tablet of stone tells us how serious He is about these specific commandments! 

The 10 commandments are explained in the Exodus 20:1-17. The second commandment out of these has some relation with the present issue happened in the English church recently... 

 You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.  This is the second commandment and through this the almighty instruct his  followers not to make any image or likeness of anything that is in heaven water or in the land, and not to bow or worship those , of what ever it may be...!!! 
Here the issue is about  an ancient portrait of  Mary, mother of the Jesus... It is a fact that this particular portrait was kept in the holy altar of the English church for more than 145 years, but it is another fact that we protestant Christians does not accept Mary as a mediator in our prayers as some other denominations do... we respect her as the mother of our Lord, but do not remember her as a mediator between us and the almighty. So what is the point in keeping her portrait in the holy alter....? where we will not keep that of our lord Jesus even... altar in the protestant church always keep a Cross only, to remember that Jesus Christ had given his life over this to save us from the sin...!!! and in that place we had a portrait all these years and if some one initiated to regularize it now means we should appreciate it and also be ashamed that we couldn't think about it yet. 

We have already mentioned in an earlier  post that "Christianity has always faced a lot of struggle to advance to this stage.... to day also we are facing such issues that we faced all these years, 
but the real problem we are facing now a days is not the threat from out side it is right from our side, from our own church people."  it is once again clarified by this issue. there are believers in this church to approach the district collector to keep that portrait again in the church altar..!!! what should we call them...??? it is a fact that the same portrait was there in the altar for a long time but that is not the reason for not to regularize it now, mistakes, whether it has done by an individual or it just happened because of lack of proper knowledge,should be corrected time to time. If it is a place for our worship then it should be according to our belief also...

Cheating the Believers

Dear readers,

you must be remembering a post in PASS's blog with the following title, some days back.

DESECRATING OUR SACRED SPACES.

article by the chairman,CSINKLF.

It has claimed that the particular blog was written by the Chairman of CSINKLF, the following sentence we have copied from the end part of their blog as,

By,

Dr. Carl Vijayan

[The Author is formerly a professor of National Institute of Technology, Calicut. And also a renowned structural engineer. Formerly he was the lay secretary of CSI North Kerala Diocese and presently, he is the Chairman of CSI North Kerala Laity Fellowship]

But we came to know from a reliable source of Bishop office that, the so called chairman has given apology to bishop regarding an open letter sent to bishop  in his name as the chairman CSINKLF, in his apology he says that "his name has been used here with out his knowledge  or consent, and he has resigned from the rubber stamp post of Chairman CSINKLF". this is nothing but cheating the believers and readers, actually that is what PASS doing all these times...

Dear PASS and Laitty do u have any answer for this ??? 

and 

Dr Carl Vijayan ...... if we posted a wrong information here you can also comment the truth here... 

All are welcome......!!! 

a shock for PASS

anglicanscribe said... 

 

cONGRATULATIONS! HERE IS AN INFORMATIVE PIECE WHICH WE SCRIBES TRIED TO POST ON CSIPASS PUTHIYARA.BUT THEY DELETED IT Let us see who the thieves are: csiPASPUTHIYARA IS supporting through savecsi.net the office bearers of CSI North Kerala Laity fellowship.Daily my team will let you know the details of the gangsters whom THEY support. /> 1.PJ Jacob:Swindled more than 5 lakhs of foreign donations received from the Dutch embassy for renovation of the Cochin cemetery.(details will follow in the next post) 2.Regi Kozhikode :Swallowed the donation received for Harvest festival while serving as the Pastorate Committee sec of the Cathedral.(details with proof follow) 3.John Aluva: Expelled by the Diocese from the caretaker post for the scam of GOA RETREAT CENTRE.(details follow) 4.James:Trying to escape without submitting the accounts of the construction work of the Ernakulam Church .Why? ( My team is ready after the sting operation)   WAIT AND WATCH THE IRON CURTAIN OPENS NOW: THE HAWALA OF VIJAYAN,ALLAN ETC.TO BE FOLLOWED.  AND ABOUT THE MAN BEHIND CSIPASS PUTHIYARA ???????  HIS ROLE IN THE PUTHIYARA CEMETARY SCAM -----! BLOGGERS DO VISIT THIS FOR KNOWING THE REAL THIEVES OF THE CSI! CSIPASS PUTHIYARA IS A BLOG BY A THIEF FOR A FEW THIEVES   

November 5, 2010 12:39 PM   

This  is a comment we received from a reader for  one of our post in this blog.....  we felt it is not something that cannot be a leaved as a comment only, but it is a post actually...  readers you decide now...........after reading this  who is the real thief...??? and who wants to sell CSI ..... ?? and the Real Face of CSI PASS !!!

PASS vs Real Face

Following are some of the messages PASS had sent to our Facebook profile...... It shows how they want to Snag who speaks their opposite... This we are posting here that the viewers can not read it on FB

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Csipass Puthiyara November 16 at 10:54am

(no subject) oho.u r only one rattle snake behind this?edapally and bishop have only one p...

Csipass Puthiyara November 14 at 12:03pm

(no subject) send some more virus to our mail.do it yaar.let us see.

Between You and Csipass Puthiyara

Csipass Puthiyara November 13 at 10:26pm Report

welcome. welcome.that we need.people have to see the real face.advertise in news papers that u have started one.you start orkut also.it is the freedom.but should continue.dont leave half the way.we will give you full support.when needed dont hesitate to call us.u have the number.okay

Csipass Puthiyara Realface November 14 at 10:47am

what to do, u r now as a radio, can only hear but others can not comment... forced ti open this b'coz we cannot leave anything in half the way...see our wall is open to everyone we r not afraid of public opinion like u...

Csipass Puthiyara November 14 at 12:01pm Report

why dont we conduct an open meet.a press conference.or a public meeting with all records?.we are always ready.without accepting this what ever circus you do, you are going to expose by your foolishness..nothing will happen to us.we have a big force backing us. tomorrow another person will take over.you try your ideas and ways.you have the freedom to do anything.you are totally misguided dear friends.do not spoil time and energy.we have nothing against you.send friendship requests and convince the people that we are wrong.we demand you to do so.

Csipass Puthiyara Realface November 15 at 10:53am

Dear,
U r still behind this open chat...........ha ha ha.. why should we spend time to chat with downward creatures of society lik u.... u r living with the money from csi and acting against the same CSI .....everyone is living with wife's money and speaking big big things.... shame on u... first give message to society by showing that in ur life.????

Csipass Puthiyara November 15 at 12:47pm Report

so childish.feeling pity on u.go and polish the shoe of your masters.you provoke as you can. you take a cycle and fit mike on it and tell everbody this.you can not touch our 'hair".we have no problems .okay.you come in face book full fledged.waiting for that.

Csipass Puthiyara Realface November 15 at 8:21pm

Pity...its my feeling on u people... making arguments like anything and slowly withdraws it... u afraid of people opinion that is well evident when u blocked the comments on the blog.... u people just says to have a backbone... but not even a sign of that... cowards.......

Csipass Puthiyara November 15 at 8:56pm Report

u jump,u dance,u shit,u urinate,u polish the shoes,u bark,u cry,u smile, all u do. u cant defeat us and the' records' readily available.the fate of your masters u see in the coming days.u r supporting a bishop facing several criminal cases and noted person of several departments.u can not chase us.why should u break ur head for jeevan.u and bishop are not at all sufficient for him.u send more comments.we will reply.we take your childish play for granted.okay.keep on sending comments.do something against jeevan physically if u r so angry.

Csipass Puthiyara Realface November 16 at 10:19am

Physical assault and writing fatherless letters are the modus operandy of pass puthuyara team...not mine...we r all real followers of Jesus Christ who asked us to show the other side of the face too when some one beats u on ur cheek... but when u beat there also we will definitely kick u between ur legs..........!!!

Csipass Puthiyara November 16 at 10:54am Report

oho.u r only one rattle snake behind this?edapally and bishop have only one person to operate.shame.shame. kazhutha kaamam karanju theerkku.if u want 'picha' come to our door.we will provide u.aanayum orumbum koode verurhe urasanda. vere pani nokku.okay

Csipass Puthiyara November 16 at 6:17pm Report

REAL followers of Jesus Christ will never disobey courts, the governments,never deviate from own constitution, they will keep away from harrasing widows and cancer patients,will never suspend church members for political reason,they will never collect church tax from suspended members !!!!!!!!. after all they will never never do vengeance against the wives of their rivals. paracramam streekalodu kanichathinde anubhavam bishopinu kittiyille. puthiyara issue was the minor earth quake led to all the issues.we were prepared for a compromise. now what happened. foolishness of edapally finally led to the total failure of bishop. POOR BISHOP..still we have no problems with him. let us see the coming episodes. no edapally will be there to save this poor person. we have problems with only few people.we will see that they are not members of this church.whatever we plan we will achieve it.so dear friend dont spoil your life for writing comments for real criminals. we will tolerate you.but not the criminals ruined the peace of our community.not we all people in nkd except one or two in puthiyara.okay. we have lot of other work to be finished.we will keep mum now. kaanaan pokunna pooram kandu ariyu sodara.jeevan is nothing. he is not interested in power.will never go for it also.but your masters only created dozens of jeevan through out nkd.

Csipass Puthiyara November 16 at 7:49pm Report

your blog is a boon for us actually.thank u for creating such blog.best wishes. csipass and CSINKLF workers.

Fate of a Challenge done by PASS

  A post was there in PASS's blog titled as Challenging Single Window System, they have mentioned in it as...

AS PER RULE ALL THE ADMISSIONS TO PLUS TWO COURSES MUST BE ROUTED THROUGH THE "SINGLE WINDOW"( EKA JALAKA SAMVIDHANAM) SYSTEM. IT IS COMMON TO ALL SCHOOLS IN KERALA.  WITHOUT APPLYING THROUGH THIS SYSTEM NO  STUDENT WILL GET AN ADMISSION EVEN IF HE IS THE SON OF THE EDUCATION MINISTER.

NOW.WE CAME TO UNDERSTAND FROM RELIABLE SOURCES THAT ONE GIRL FROM CBSE SYLLABUS WAS ADMITTED IN OUR BEMHSS,CALICUT  WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE SINGLE WINDOW SYSTEM. MOREOVER STILL THERE IS NO PERMISSION FOR CBSE STUDENTS TO JOIN.   WE UNDERSTAND THAT ONE OF THE PARENTS ONLY LODGED COMPLAINT WITH HIGHER AUTHORITIES AT TRIVANDRUM.
THE PRINCIPAL IN CHARGE ONLY WAS IN CHARGE OF PLUS TWO ADMISSIONS.THERE WAS HECTIC PRESSURE FROM THE MANAGER OFFICE TO DO THIS ILLEGAL,ANTI-SOCIAL AND PUNISHABLE ACTIVITY.

THE " CSIPASS " TEAM IS DOING A SERIOUS INVESTIGATION ON THIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY INITIATED ENGUIRY PROCEEDURES ON THIS MATTER.

ON COMPLETION OF THE INVESTIGATION OF OUR TEAM,THE NAME OF STUDENT,DATE OF ADMISSION AND ALL OTHER DETAILS WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THIS BLOG. PLEASE WAIT.     IF THIS NEWS IS TRUE HOW YOU CAN TOLERATE SUCH ANTI-SOCIAL PEOPLE IN CHURCH AS WELL AS IN GOVT SERVICE.    

 as far as our knowledge every management- no matter that  is school or college or professional, has the right to admit students on management seats and it is purely the discretion of management not of CSI PASS... it not the violation of any rules...

It is the PASS people who wants to create problems in our churches and institutions as always they do.... 

Now we challenge them to publish the proof if they have any... 
what has happened  to their SERIOUS INVESTIGATION"  does they forgot to investigate......  "????

The Real Story of A Long Robbery

This is a post which will give you answers for your entire questions dear PASS, I want to quote some posts and comments from your own blog... just for the sake of continuation...

"MRS.REMILA GRACE VIJAYAN, PRINCIPAL, BEMGHSS, CALICUT IS OUR CHURCH MEMBER AND DAUGHTER OF THE LATE. Dr.E.P.VIJAYAN ,THE FAMOUS PRIEST EVER BASEL MISSION COMMUNITY HAD, AS THE MEMBERS OF PUTHIYARA CHURCH WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE REASONS BEHIND THE  SO CALLED  PROPOSAL OF DISMISSAL FROM SERVICE"

 This was a post from the PASS Puthiyara blog stating that the Late Rev.Vijayan was a holy priest and his daughter MRS.REMILA GRACEVIJAYAN,PRINCIPAL ,BEMGHSS,CALICUT 

(soon to be EX principal) as an goddess of truth, but from one of the comments for the same post, it is so evident what they actually are 

"If my memory is right Mrs.Remila is the person who has taken the Akash fund raised by the students for their school mate, Akash who had to get his legs amputated because of an accident. I think she is the same person who got the Hr.sec post after buttering Rev.Gladston actually Mrs.Mridula was the deserving candidate. I think she is the daughter of the same Rev.Vijayan who showed his sons as orphans for getting foreign funds. Should she continue as Principal?" 

Another comment of the same post has some more information about the crime, 

"who could bring out the true color of a "Santosh Madhavi" who swallowed nearly 4lacs lump sum grant of Scheduled caste and scheduled tribe of the MCC Hr.Sec, 1 lack of P.D fund, 2lacs of govt. fund, a few thousands from the non disbursement of the 'Caution Deposit' of the students on their completion of the course, 1 lack from the book fund and also other charity funds like the Akash fund". 

We also have mentioned about these in our comments as...

“The teacher for saving her job u are doing all these was the most cheap and corrupted principal the whole educational Kerala seen…A PARENT OF A POOR SC ST PUPIL CAME AND INQUIRED ABOUT THE GRANT THAT HE IS NOT RECEIVING THE SAME AS PREVIOUS FROM 2006 ONWARDS … this happened in 2008 and the whole story of a long burglary came in to light….then one after the other, only after the RDD inquiry management decided to take strong action against the culprit" 

                                                                And 

“A STUDENT NAMED AAKASH IN THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL WHO MET WITH AN ACCIDENT AND BOTH HIS LEGS WERE AMPUTATED… THE KIND HEARTS OF THIS SCHOOL HAVE DECIDED TO RAISE A FUND TO HELP HIM AND COLLECTED A SUM WHICH WAS HANDED OVER TO THE PRINCIPAL TO GIVE TO THE BOY’S FAMILY AS A HELP TO MEET THE EXPENSES… BUT TILL NOW THAT POOR BOY HAS NOT RECEIVED THAT SUM COLLECTED FROM HIGHER SECONDARY DIVISION… YOUR HOLY TEACHER WAS THE HS PRINCIPAL THAT TIME….SHE HAS SWALLOWED THAT TOO  ..." 

my dear readers is there anything sparks... actually this is the truth that everyone knows in Calicut, so what is PASS  doing here, what is their agony in this, the answer is quite simple they just want to create problems in the diocese and show others that the Bishop and manager can not manage the institutions and the diocese. For that they will run any distance remember all these people have went all the way to Elamkulam to support another group of rebels in community who are running behind a priest to rule that church and saying there is no holiness in priest. Why these people want to involve in the church committee matters if they are not representing the committee, money that is the answer… all are money minded... to get the control of finance all are ready to do anything, they will abuse even Bishop and Priest that are all fame for them . It has been published in a comment about their post as 

" Me think the blogger csi pass is blindly supporting a corrupted group in the diocese who has got vested interests. That is why you are supporting a corrupt principal .Yeah birds of the same feathers flock together.
I don’t believe that this is the ethics of the Basel Mission nor the Anglican. Blogger, do follow the ethics of blogging,"

 The pass has said that all the comments viewers posted their against was foolish and their viewers called up and asked to block it.... that is there way of dealing who ever go against them they will make their mouth shut by using any cheap methods. If nothing works they will just put a comment on blog like this.. 

"NEED NOT POST ANY MORE COMMENTS. WE WILL DELETE IT".  

and they have blocked all comments also,It sounds like please, please, please do not post anything more we will be screwed up; please I beg u… isn’t it…

The members of pass stated above that they are the members of puthiyara csi church and they have also given a post as 

"THE  FIVE  DEVOTEES   SUSPENDED BY THE BISHOP  NOT AS PER THE PROVISIONS OF OUR CONSTITUTION FROM THE PRIMARY MEMBERSHIP OF THE CHURCH IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER 2008,WHICH WAS DONE ONLY  AS PER THE REPORT OF THE PRIEST,  ARE STILL ON 'SUSPENSION ?.THE CHARGES FABRICATED AGAINST THEM WERE NOT PROVED,THE ENGUIRY COMMISSION WAS RECALLED BY THE BISHOP, THEIR VOTING RIGHT WAS DENIED" 

These five suspended members are this PASS in front and behind the curtain some greedy achans who seeks power who are Jealous on the able Priests and Bishop and some people who seeks chair on all church committee.They only said above that they are Puthiyara church members and they themselves have said again they have been kicked out from the primary membership of the church in the month of November 2008 itself, aren’t they contradictory? They are bothered only about the voting power not that they could not attend the worship or communion ... where are we going ... are they Christians...they may say but we don't believe

We Will Not Give Up

Dear Believers in Jesus Christ,
Christianity has always faced a lot of struggle to advance to this stage, now we are said to be a minority division but we have hospitals, schools, engineering colleges etc etc.... to day also we are facing such issues that we faced all these years, 
but the real problem we are facing now a days is not a threat from out side it is right from our side, from our own church people. 


people are started running behind money, power, posts and fame. we  do not know or do not like to forgive and think. we are being controlled by certain perverted people those address themselves as the Saviors of believers. They want all seats in church committee, they want the priest to respect and obey them, for that purpose they may even start  A" REGISTERED ORGANISATION UNDER SOCIETIES ACT and say they are ENGAGED IN SOCIAL AND GOSPEL ACTIVITIES,ALSO MOBILISING THE DEVOTTEES AGAINST THE UNHEALTHY PRACTISES IN CSI CHURCH,FINDING OUT SOLUTIONS PURELY DEMOCRATICALLY", and call them selves as "AIKYA SAMRAKSHANA SAMITHI"  they say that they are democratic but we can not find it in their act. These people come to church  not to worship but to see and evaluate how the priest doing the worship, has he following the laws of church during worship. They can drink alcohol and disturb others in church during church meeting, they will even call prostitutes to church premises, that no body should question because they are big people, but others should obey them and salute them. They can abuse even the Hon'ble Bishop and the parish priest, what all they do is correct. all the activities of diocese they want to know , they want to sign all official papers and wants to handle the finance. If anybody, any believer questioned him they will conquer him by all means, for that they adopt any cheap method like throwing stones to your home, abuse and threaten your family and even write anonymous vulgar letter to your relatives. Jesus had taken the whip in church only once, but we need to take whip in our hand always, the situation demands it, we need to do it to save our church and Christianity. 

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Welcome the Truth

Hi,
the Real Basel Mission Christians,

We are forced to open a new blog against the CSI PASS because they are become like a Radio now.

 All the rubbishes they say we have to hear... but they do not hear anything, that is why they have posted in their blog comments as 

" NEED NOT POST ANY MORE COMMENTS. WE WILL DELETE IT. already we were requested from our readers not to hear the people without having christian belief and character. 

admin.csipass.blogspot.com." 

This is a democratic country and everyone has a 

right to state his opinion any where,but 

we should always support the truth and Justice 

not for some body's Jelousy and for personnel 

harassments. 

We encourage our readers to post as much as 

comments here... 

 Expecting your valuable co operation in the 

future...

forth coming posts are

1.The real mission of  PASS

2. The story of a long Robbery

3. The Puthiyara Issue

wait for it

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