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1/25/2011

Let us Cut these parasites from our Grape field

A totally unwanted issue.... that is what happened in shoranur on these days. Our Most.Rev. Moderator has appointed a team of administers to assume the charge of bishop office from 24th January 2011, and they miscerably failed from their mission before a court stay order which questioned their mission . As we mentioned in earlier posts both PASS and LAITY are making the believers confuse and sensationalize the small issues in our churches for their own benefits.  We are not making any statement blindly to abuse anyone here, this has been published in their web page as 
" the term of the existing administration expired on 24 October 2010. As per the CSI constitution chapter 8-12, the present administration can continue in office only for another three months, which expires on 24 January 2011. Since the bishop cannot hold the diocesan council before 24 January and elect a new administration, it is incumbent upon the CSI synod to appoint an officiating administration from that date. The bishop, in his worldly wisdom, did not care to report the fact of the expiry of the date of the present administration to the synod as required by the constitution. The constitution states: In case the new Council cannot be convened within 3 months from the expiry of the term of the old council, the Bishop/officers shall report the matter to the Synod which shall take steps for the proper administration of the diocese. The synod came to know of the date of the expiry of the old diocesan council from the CSI North Kerala Laity Fellowship and the synod had to confront the bishop with these facts. This was a serious dereliction of duty on the part of the bishop." 
the above  paragraph we have copied from the post in savecsi forum named "the tragicomedy of an erred bishop"... 
but is that the truth???? the answer is a big NO.... 
As described in  the CSI north kerala diocese constitution, the administrative period of an diocesan council is 4 years and 6 months this has stated well in the rule No:34 of   diocesan constitution. in light of this the present council has term till 24th march 2011 as it has  came to effect only from 23th march 2006 onwards. so what has stated in the above mentioned web page is an absolute lie. in this circumstances our moderator has informed the bishop of north kerala diocese  Rev.Dr.K P Kuruvila through a circular that the term of present diocese will expire on 23rd January 2011 and he will sent a team of administers to control the activities of diocese till the next council come to power. It is also a fact that moderator alone has no right to  execute such a committee to any diocese, it can only be done with the  3/4 majority of the synod executive committee, that too with the recommendations of the Hon'ble Bishop and the other committees. so why?? for what reason the Most.Rev.Moderator has done like this... ??? it should be assumed that some one has played a nasty game in between by misguiding the moderator...!!! who can it be....... ???? 
the answer is well on the blog owned by PASS in their post dated 25th of november 2010 as


" DISCUSSION POSITIVE

WE  ARE  HAPPY  TO  INFORM  YOU  THAT THE  DISCUSSION  BETWEEN
THE  CSI  MODERATOR  AND THE DELEGATION  LED  BY  THE  GENERAL  SECRETARY MR.T.J.JOHN   OF  THE  CSI   NORTH KERALA   LAITY  FELLOWSHIP (CSINKLF|  ON  24.11.2010  AT  BANGALORE  WAS  POSITIVE  AND  FRUITFUL. THE  MODERATOR   WAS  FULLY  CONVINCED  ABOUT  THE  ILLEGAL, VINDICTIVE ,  
AND  CRIMINAL  ACTIVITIES  EXIST  IN  OUR  DIOCESE. LET   US  PRAY   AND   WORK   TOGETHER    FOR   BETTER   RESULTS   AND GOOD  FUTURE." and the above given quote from savecsi web page as 
"The synod came to know of the date of the expiry of the old diocesan council from the CSI North Kerala Laity Fellowship "


so it gives an idea that who and when the moderator was mis guided and that caused this whole issue. The following are some of the news that has published on local daily's given by the above mentioned team regarding our diocese and Rev.Bishop.






we have got the above given newspaper cuttings  from savecsi webpage, if it has been given by their respective reporters we can call it as an investigative  journalism, but all the above given  the news cuttings have got almost same verballing and name, which means the news have been given by Mr.T J John and Reginold walter, whose name have been mentioned in the news multiple times. This is an act of purposeful character assassination, not only of Rev.Bishop but of our Basel mission culture also.
 If they are really interested in the well being of our diocese as they say, they wouldn't have washed this dirt in the midst of public and media. So it shows an exercise to create a fame for themselves and to ruin the name of our diocese, they have played this cheap nasty game. 

 The very same group has published an earlier post abusing the moderator itself ...


"Please note neither the Bishop Boycott Campaign nor its supporters will refer to you henceforth by your honorific “Most Rev” We don’t think you are fit to even be addressed as “Rev” much less as “Most Rev.” You are an utter disgrace to the church and all that it stands for"

this is how the above mentioned  post named "open letter to csi moderator"  has ended at the web page of savecsi forum. which stated that "your bank account in Vijaya Bank, Residency Road, Bangalore bearing SB A/c No 17030 and standing in the name of  “Mr/Mrs Vasanthakumar S. Bishop Discretionary Fund.”  The published photocopy of the above account for a period of six months between April 2006 and October 2006 showed you had illegally received a transfer of Rs 400,000 from Bishop Cotton Boys School. This money was put to illegal use including to settle your daughter’s credit card bills"
but when he had decided to sent a team of moderators to north kerala diocese bishop's office at shoranur by believing to this crooked group he became 
"Dear Most Rev. Vasanthakumar,We are extremely grateful to you for the timely intervention, by which a constitutional breakdown has been avoided in the diocese"  
what a respect.... so it is clear that, they are playing that old game of fox who tried to lick the blood of two goat by making them fight each other.
the full version of open letter to CSI moderator u can read here.
http://www.savecsi.net/2010/06/bbcs-open-letter-to-csi-moderator-and.html"


Now we respectfully plea to Rev.Dr.K P Kuruvilla, our respected Rev. Bishop of north kerala diocese to Proscribe
 these  two organisations from involving our church matters and to give strict warning to those laymen who are the blood and bread of this nasty parasite, otherwise they will ruin the harmony of our diocese, it is already late, better late than never.

1/08/2011

BEWARE OF PASS

When we started this blog and chose the name as 
REAL FACE, we were quite sure of revealing the real face of such and such culprits that want to ruin our CSI community. When we wrote our header as “This is a blog against the activities of CSI PASS Puthiyara like abusing Bishop and Priests. About their unwanted activities in church and its day to day work, against their collective activities of saving the culprits” we had really meant it.

Following is a post recently found on almost inactive blog of PASS, due to public opinion, it says

WE AT CSIPASS,PUTHIYARA INVITE ALL OF YOU TO OUR NEW YEAR GET TOGETHER

WITH THE INMATES OF ASHA BHAVAN-A GOVT.OF KERALA REHABILITATION CENTRE        

MAYANAD,  NEAR MEDICAL COLLEGE,  CALICUT.ON 9.01.2011 AT 12.30.PM.

OUR MUSIC TEAM WILL BE SINGING DEVOTIONAL SONGS FOR THEM.

PLEASECOME.PARTICIPATE AND BLESS THEM.

PRESIDENT,CSIPASS,PUTHIYARA


when our team saw this post we does not felt anything un usual in the beginning ......and felt our self happy that finally they started doing some good things to the society rather than splitting the church members......... but when we read the following comment, there we found the real face of PASS. The following was the only comment for this post at their blog

jose said...
I would like to participate with you in the program. But i am far away from there. It is good and better than to give Diocese, because they are using the money for court cases and TA and DA of criminals. If you have account No. please publish, if so i can also contribute. My congruence to all members of CSIPASS.
This is actually a hook to catch the poor fishes ....... see there is no real name and identity.........just a name that anyone can write... this is just a hook as we say above to attract money from poor laymen. This is a result after serious conspiracy to ruin the entire CSI community. First they started propagating that the whole diocese and the Hon'ble diocese leaders are criminals and are money minded, then they crookedly started asking money from the laymen now.... instead of asking directly that "we want money fund us" they just done it as if some one is willingly donating them so that others also will follow it... this is a trick that beggars in the Calicut town follows.. they will keep coins of 2 and 5 rupees only on their plate  so that others will not put cheap change....
dear readers........identify this black sheep, identify these beggars who want to snatch our coins............they are among us saying and pretending to be our friends but their intention is something different..........BEWARE.......BEWARE OF PASS...

1/07/2011

Mismanagement of TSUNAMI funds by a PRIEST

Tsunami.............the attack of the roaring sea over poor human beings with its gigantic waves.........where our technologies, power and influence everything went in vain  to oppose it. Only thing we could do was just helping the diseased, and we have done that by raising funds, collecting the medicine and cloths, and by distributing food packets to them also.Many of us have donated money to the victims of this sudden attack through various modes , through news paper, through schools and through our CSI churches also.We also had raised a fund to help these poor victims by constructing houses for them who lost it due to tsunami.

But it is being observed by the government and media that the houses which  are buildup and handed over by CSI in Madai are of low quality and they are collapsing easily!!!! what is it mean..???? so many houses were constructed there, for tsunami victims by various forums, but only those which constructed by CSI are collapsed.........why??? so there is some mismanagement occurred with the fund meant to use for this sacred act.... do you know from where this fund came from..it is our own money that we have donated for this purpose through our churches and somebody has swallowed it...!!!! 

So who is responsible now for this shame??? Obviously the one who was in charge of this construction.......and who is he???? it is shocking to know that he is a PRIEST....!!!!!!!!!!! any Guess??? he must be the chairman of Madai CSI church of that time....who is he ?? we will give you a clue........

he is an ASSISTANT VICAR IN OUR CATHEDRAL at mananchira NOW

any guess now ???........ and he is aiming for the chairman's post  now after Rev.Paul David's retirement. My God what will happen if he became the chairman of cathedral......he may sell our cathedral to somebody to start a hotel even.....

and one more news .....this great man has stood in the recently held district council election  as secretary..........when he has all these experiences he should come  front to lead the diocese isn't it?......
HE IS ONE OF THE WELL WISHERS OF PASS also....and we know that PASS is there only to give immense support to all the thieves and culprits in diocese so how can they avoid him alone....????

12/02/2010

The Issue In the English Church

Christianity has many denominations  that we only has created through all these years of development, according to our belief and family orientation we have been following one or another division. Certain churches will have certain particularities according to their belief also, Roman catholic churches are known for its architectural beauty, the synagogues are a part of our history same like protestant churches especially CSI churches are also the ancient ones and treated as a study material about the evolution of Christianity in Kerala. Every division of the Christianity believes in the 10 commandments which the almighty  has given to us through the prophet Moses at the Seenai, 
We the protestant Christians approach to the  commandments very  seriously, The fact that God the Father would manifest these 10 specific commandments on a tablet of stone tells us how serious He is about these specific commandments! 
The 10 commandments are explained in the Exodus 20:1-17. The second commandment out of these has some relation with the present issue happened in the English church recently... 
 You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.  This is the second commandment and through this the almighty instruct his  followers not to make any image or likeness of anything that is in heaven water or in the land, and not to bow or worship those , of what ever it may be...!!! 
Here the issue is about  an ancient portrait of  Mary, mother of the Jesus... It is a fact that this particular portrait was kept in the holy altar of the English church for more than 145 years, but it is another fact that we protestant Christians does not accept Mary as a mediator in our prayers as some other denominations do... we respect her as the mother of our Lord, but do not remember her as a mediator between us and the almighty. So what is the point in keeping her portrait in the holy alter....? where we will not keep that of our lord Jesus even... altar in the protestant church always keep a Cross only, to remember that Jesus Christ had given his life over this to save us from the sin...!!! and in that place we had a portrait all these years and if some one initiated to regularize it now means we should appreciate it and also be ashamed that we couldn't think about it yet. 
We have already mentioned in an earlier  post that "Christianity has always faced a lot of struggle to advance to this stage.... to day also we are facing such issues that we faced all these years, 
but the real problem we are facing now a days is not the threat from out side it is right from our side, from our own church people."  it is once again clarified by this issue. there are believers in this church to approach the district collector to keep that portrait again in the church altar..!!! what should we call them...??? it is a fact that the same portrait was there in the altar for a long time but that is not the reason for not to regularize it now, mistakes, whether it has done by an individual or it just happened because of lack of proper knowledge,should be corrected time to time. If it is a place for our worship then it should be according to our belief also...

11/22/2010

Cheating the Believers

Dear readers,

you must be remembering a post in PASS's blog with the following title, some days back.

DESECRATING OUR SACRED SPACES.

article by the chairman,CSINKLF.

It has claimed that the particular blog was written by the Chairman of CSINKLF, the following sentence we have copied from the end part of their blog as,

By,
Dr. Carl Vijayan
[The Author is formerly a professor of National Institute of Technology, Calicut. And also a renowned structural engineer. Formerly he was the lay secretary of CSI North Kerala Diocese and presently, he is the Chairman of CSI North Kerala Laity Fellowship]

But we came to know from a reliable source of Bishop office that, the so called chairman has given apology to bishop regarding an open letter sent to bishop  in his name as the chairman CSINKLF, in his apology he says that "his name has been used here with out his knowledge  or consent, and he has resigned from the rubber stamp post of Chairman CSINKLF". this is nothing but cheating the believers and readers, actually that is what PASS doing all these times...

Dear PASS and Laitty do u have any answer for this ??? 

and 

Dr Carl Vijayan ...... if we posted a wrong information here you can also comment the truth here... 

All are welcome......!!! 

11/16/2010

a shock for PASS


anglicanscribe said... 
 
cONGRATULATIONS! HERE IS AN INFORMATIVE PIECE WHICH WE SCRIBES TRIED TO POST ON CSIPASS PUTHIYARA.BUT THEY DELETED IT Let us see who the thieves are: csiPASPUTHIYARA IS supporting through savecsi.net the office bearers of CSI North Kerala Laity fellowship.Daily my team will let you know the details of the gangsters whom THEY support. /> 1.PJ Jacob:Swindled more than 5 lakhs of foreign donations received from the Dutch embassy for renovation of the Cochin cemetery.(details will follow in the next post) 2.Regi Kozhikode :Swallowed the donation received for Harvest festival while serving as the Pastorate Committee sec of the Cathedral.(details with proof follow) 3.John Aluva: Expelled by the Diocese from the caretaker post for the scam of GOA RETREAT CENTRE.(details follow) 4.James:Trying to escape without submitting the accounts of the construction work of the Ernakulam Church .Why? ( My team is ready after the sting operation)   WAIT AND WATCH THE IRON CURTAIN OPENS NOW: THE HAWALA OF VIJAYAN,ALLAN ETC.TO BE FOLLOWED.  AND ABOUT THE MAN BEHIND CSIPASS PUTHIYARA ???????  HIS ROLE IN THE PUTHIYARA CEMETARY SCAM -----! BLOGGERS DO VISIT THIS FOR KNOWING THE REAL THIEVES OF THE CSI! CSIPASS PUTHIYARA IS A BLOG BY A THIEF FOR A FEW THIEVES   

11/15/2010

PASS vs Real Face

Following are some of the messages PASS had sent to our Facebook profile...... It shows how they want to Snag who speaks their opposite... This we are posting here that the viewers can not read it on FB


Csipass Puthiyara November 13 at 10:26pm Report
welcome. welcome.that we need.people have to see the real face.advertise in news papers that u have started one.you start orkut also.it is the freedom.but should continue.dont leave half the way.we will give you full support.when needed dont hesitate to call us.u have the number.okay
Csipass Puthiyara Realface November 14 at 10:47am
what to do, u r now as a radio, can only hear but others can not comment... forced ti open this b'coz we cannot leave anything in half the way...see our wall is open to everyone we r not afraid of public opinion like u...
Csipass Puthiyara November 14 at 12:01pm Report
why dont we conduct an open meet.a press conference.or a public meeting with all records?.we are always ready.without accepting this what ever circus you do, you are going to expose by your foolishness..nothing will happen to us.we have a big force backing us. tomorrow another person will take over.you try your ideas and ways.you have the freedom to do anything.you are totally misguided dear friends.do not spoil time and energy.we have nothing against you.send friendship requests and convince the people that we are wrong.we demand you to do so.
Csipass Puthiyara Realface November 15 at 10:53am
Dear,
U r still behind this open chat...........ha ha ha.. why should we spend time to chat with downward creatures of society lik u.... u r living with the money from csi and acting against the same CSI .....everyone is living with wife's money and speaking big big things.... shame on u... first give message to society by showing that in ur life.????
Csipass Puthiyara November 15 at 12:47pm Report
so childish.feeling pity on u.go and polish the shoe of your masters.you provoke as you can. you take a cycle and fit mike on it and tell everbody this.you can not touch our 'hair".we have no problems .okay.you come in face book full fledged.waiting for that.
Csipass Puthiyara Realface November 15 at 8:21pm
Pity...its my feeling on u people... making arguments like anything and slowly withdraws it... u afraid of people opinion that is well evident when u blocked the comments on the blog.... u people just says to have a backbone... but not even a sign of that... cowards.......
Csipass Puthiyara November 15 at 8:56pm Report
u jump,u dance,u shit,u urinate,u polish the shoes,u bark,u cry,u smile, all u do. u cant defeat us and the' records' readily available.the fate of your masters u see in the coming days.u r supporting a bishop facing several criminal cases and noted person of several departments.u can not chase us.why should u break ur head for jeevan.u and bishop are not at all sufficient for him.u send more comments.we will reply.we take your childish play for granted.okay.keep on sending comments.do something against jeevan physically if u r so angry.
Csipass Puthiyara Realface November 16 at 10:19am
Physical assault and writing fatherless letters are the modus operandy of pass puthuyara team...not mine...we r all real followers of Jesus Christ who asked us to show the other side of the face too when some one beats u on ur cheek... but when u beat there also we will definitely kick u between ur legs..........!!!
Csipass Puthiyara November 16 at 10:54am Report
oho.u r only one rattle snake behind this?edapally and bishop have only one person to operate.shame.shame. kazhutha kaamam karanju theerkku.if u want 'picha' come to our door.we will provide u.aanayum orumbum koode verurhe urasanda. vere pani nokku.okay

Csipass Puthiyara November 16 at 6:17pm Report
REAL followers of Jesus Christ will never disobey courts, the governments,never deviate from own constitution, they will keep away from harrasing widows and cancer patients,will never suspend church members for political reason,they will never collect church tax from suspended members !!!!!!!!. after all they will never never do vengeance against the wives of their rivals. paracramam streekalodu kanichathinde anubhavam bishopinu kittiyille. puthiyara issue was the minor earth quake led to all the issues.we were prepared for a compromise. now what happened. foolishness of edapally finally led to the total failure of bishop. POOR BISHOP..still we have no problems with him. let us see the coming episodes. no edapally will be there to save this poor person. we have problems with only few people.we will see that they are not members of this church.whatever we plan we will achieve it.so dear friend dont spoil your life for writing comments for real criminals. we will tolerate you.but not the criminals ruined the peace of our community.not we all people in nkd except one or two in puthiyara.okay. we have lot of other work to be finished.we will keep mum now. kaanaan pokunna pooram kandu ariyu sodara.jeevan is nothing. he is not interested in power.will never go for it also.but your masters only created dozens of jeevan through out nkd.


Csipass Puthiyara November 16 at 7:49pm Report
your blog is a boon for us actually.thank u for creating such blog.best wishes. csipass and CSINKLF workers.